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Preliminary Hearing in the Bob Bashara Murder Trial

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Recap {Thank you Meandmyshadow!!!!!} of today's testimony:

A member of St Michaels' vestry testified that he witnessed an argument between Jane and Blob in January 2012 (if I recall the date correctly) while the witness and Jane were counting the collection funds in the counting room.  Bob was asked to leave by the witness because his presence was not allowed, and his bevhavior was not appropriate.

Stephanie Samuels took the stand and Lisa Lindsey quickly established the fact that she was testifying in exchange for immunity. Stephanie Samuels testified that in July 2012 she was called to the Comerica Bank in Grosse Pointe Woods by her Aunt Nancy Bashara to see the safe deposit box that Laura, Nancy and Bob shared.  Inside that box Nancy had found a pouch with a handgun.  She showed it to Laura and Stephanie.  They took the gun to the Middlesex house, hid it, showed it to David Griem.  David Griem took the gun off their hands.  Staphanie did not notify the police.  (it was here that they played the clip of the Dateline interview where Blob vehemently denies having a gun). She then testified that Bob she had assisted Bob in getting character letters from tenants and admitted that she wrote/typed the letter for one tenant (she actually only admitted to dictating the letter for the tenant).  Then she testified that Bob called her from jail and asked her to evict a specific tenant for him.  She also testified that she had seen the discovery documents that David Griem gave them regarding the solicitation case for Bob against Gentz.  Also there were forms she found in August 2013 in files of Bob's in her basement but I was interrupted so missed the significance of those papers. Oh, and Stephanie testified that she heard a phone message about a "Boyfriend" of an ex-tenant named April whom blob had evicted. Her ex-boyfriend contacted blob, Stephanie heard the message, and the ex-boyfriend told blob the new boyfriend was out to get him because he evicted April and she owed him money. that maybe could be a POI. She testified that Bob seemed excited about it. Guess this was the new POI that Griem and Bob talked so much about, eh?

Then Nancy Bashara took the stand, and corroborated the story of finding the gun in the safe deposit box, showing it to Stephanie and Laura, taking it home, hiding it, and giving it to David Griem.  She further testified that the pouch that the gun was in was in a bag of jewelry, watches and coins that Bob gave Nancy to place in the safe deposit box at Comerica Bank in March 2012.  Nancy corroborated that she saw the pouch in the bag in Marrch, but did not look in it.  Then she corroborated that no one else had signed in to access the safe deposit between March and July 2012 when she saw the pouch still there, opened it, and found the hand gun.  Lastly. Nancy testified that she did let Bob use her phone, but denied making a phone call to a tipline for the case or calling Ruth to the rescue (clearly we will be hearing more about THAT later when we find out that such a call was most likely made from Nancy's phone).

After Nancy Bashara a Michigan State police officer took the stand to testify that she was called to recover a gun from David Griem's office in September 2013 that was in the same pouch identified by both Nancy and Stephanie.

Next a friend of Bob's took the stand and stated that he had been introduced to the BDSM lifestyle by Blob, invited to parties at the dungeon, met Rachel there.  Testified that Rachel was Blobs girl (and slave) and that the plan was to buy a house with her and have a life together.  He also testified that Bob was not happy in his marriage and that Jane was totally opposed to the BDSM lifestyle.  He then testified that in July of 2011 during a lunch meeting Blob inquired if the witness knew anyone who could "rough up" an annoying tenant.  Lastly, the witness testified that he had received a call from Bob from jail that his name was being given to someone name Richard.  Just a guess here, but maybe this was the threat or Intimidation of witnesses and we will hear more later?

Finally, Jane's best friend took the stand and testified that Jane was not OK with Bob's lifestyle (he watched porn and used the kid's email addresses to pretend he was them and sent inappropriate emails), that Bob lied all the time, that Jane suspected Bob stole $10,000 from her 401K, that he was gone A LOT for the last few months of her life, and that she did not want a divorce, although Bob had mentioned it once.  

Did I miss anything?  Feel free to fill in the blanks!!



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AnalyzeThis



I just got home and did a quick read of the day's postings, so maybe I missed someone posting this.  If so, sorry.

I didn't realize the detectives only found out about the gun last week...wow!  

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/bob-basharas-mistress-takes-the-stand-in-murder-case/-/1719418/21842956/-/fo2eftz/-/index.html

snipped:

Bashara's mother and cousin both said they immediately handed the weapon over to his attorney at the time, David Griem. However, detectives didn't learn about the gun until last week.

The gun was locked up in Griem's office for more than a year. He says two legal experts told him to hang onto the weapon.

"This isn't something that comes out in evidence 101 or any law school book," Griem told Local 4. "I safeguarded that gun."

Legal expert Todd Flood says Griem now could be in legal trouble for keeping the weapon.

"He could face an obstruction charge, tampering with a witness," Flood said.

meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

Bumping this over because we have a new thread!!!

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meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

AnalyzeThis wrote:I just got home and did a quick read of the day's postings, so maybe I missed someone posting this.  If so, sorry.

I didn't realize the detectives only found out about the gun last week...wow!  

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/bob-basharas-mistress-takes-the-stand-in-murder-case/-/1719418/21842956/-/fo2eftz/-/index.html

snipped:

Bashara's mother and cousin both said they immediately handed the weapon over to his attorney at the time, David Griem. However, detectives didn't learn about the gun until last week.

The gun was locked up in Griem's office for more than a year. He says two legal experts told him to hang onto the weapon.

"This isn't something that comes out in evidence 101 or any law school book," Griem told Local 4. "I safeguarded that gun."

Legal expert Todd Flood says Griem now could be in legal trouble for keeping the weapon.

"He could face an obstruction charge, tampering with a witness," Flood said.
He makes me incredibly ill!!!

5Preliminary Hearing in the Bob Bashara Murder Trial Empty The other suspect Mon 09 Sep 2013, 10:02 pm

TheEndIsNear

TheEndIsNear

Justice4Jane wrote:Recap {Thank you Meandmyshadow!!!!!} of today's testimony:

A member of St Michaels' vestry testified that he witnessed an argument between Jane and Blob in January 2012 (if I recall the date correctly) while the witness and Jane were counting the collection funds in the counting room.  Bob was asked to leave by the witness because his presence was not allowed, and his bevhavior was not appropriate.

Staphanie Samuels testified that in July 2012 she was called to the Comerica Bank in Grosse Pointe Woods by her Aunt Nancy Bashara to see the safe deposit box that Laura, Nancy and Bob shared.  Inside that box Nancy had found a pouch with a handgun.  She showed it to Laura and Stephanie.  They took the gun to the Middlesex house, hid it, showed it to David Griem.  David Griem took the gun off their hands.  Staphanie did not notify the police.  (it was here that they played the clip of the Dateline interview where Blob vehemently denies having a gun). She then testified that Bob she had assisted Bob in getting character letters from tenants and admitted that she wrote/typed the letter for one tenant (she actually only admitted to dictating the letter for the tenant).  Then she testified that Bob called her from jail and asked her to evict a specific tenant for him.  She also testified that she had seen the discovery documents that David Griem gave them regarding the solicitation case for Bob against Gentz.  Also there were forms she found in August 2013 in files of Bob's in her basement but I was interrupted so missed the significance of those papers. Oh, and Stephanie testified that she heard a phone message about an old "Boyfriend" I think maybe of Jane's that maybe could be a POI. She testified that Bob seemed excited about it. Guess this was the new POI that Griem and Bob talked so much about, eh?

Then Nancy Bashara took the stand, and corroborated the story of finding the gun in the safe deposit box, showing it to Stephanie and Laura, taking it home, hiding it, and giving it to David Griem.  She further testified that the pouch that the gun was in was in a bag of jewelry, watches and coins that Bob gave Nancy to place in the safe deposit box at Comerica Bank in March 2012.  Nancy corroborated that she saw the pouch in the bag in Marrch, but did not look in it.  Then she corroborated that no one else had signed in to access the safe deposit between March and July 2012 when she saw the pouch still there, opened it, and found the hand gun.  Lastly. Nancy testified that she did let Bob use her phone, but denied making a phone call to a tipline for the case or calling Ruth to the rescue (clearly we will be hearing more about THAT later when we find out that such a call was most likely made from Nancy's phone).

After Nancy Bashara a Michigan State police officer took the stand to testify that she was called to recover a gun from David Griem's office in September 2013 that was in the same pouch identified by both Nancy and Stephanie.

Next a friend of Bob's took the stand and stated that he had been introduced to the BDSM lifestyle by Blob, invited to parties at the dungeon, met Rachel there.  Testified that Rachel was Blobs girl (and slave) and that the plan was to buy a house with her and have a life together.  He also testified that Bob was not happy in his marriage and that Jane was totally opposed to the BDSM lifestyle.  He then testified that in July of 2011 during a lunch meeting Blob inquired if the witness knew anyone who could "rough up" an annoying tenant.  Lastly, the witness testified that he had received a call from Bob from jail that his name was being given to someone name Richard.  Just a guess here, but maybe this was the threat or Intimidation of witnesses and we will hear more later?

Finally, Jane's best friend took the stand and testified that Jane was not OK with Bob's lifestyle (he watched porn and used the kid's email addresses to pretend he was them and sent inappropriate emails), that Bob lied all the time, that Jane suspected Bob stole $10,000 from her 401K, that he was gone A LOT for the last few months of her life, and that she did not want a divorce, although Bob had mentioned it once.  

Did I miss anything?  Feel free to fill in the blanks!!
BBM

The way I heard it, the other "suspect" was the new boyfriend of an ex-tenant named April whom bb had evicted. Her ex-boyfriend contacted bb, Stephanie heard the message, and the ex-boyfriend told bb the new boyfriend was out to get him because he evicted April and she owed him money.

Anyone else hear that??

6Preliminary Hearing in the Bob Bashara Murder Trial Empty Today Mon 09 Sep 2013, 10:06 pm

family4ever

family4ever

cheers 

meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

TheEndIsNear wrote:
Justice4Jane wrote:Recap {Thank you Meandmyshadow!!!!!} of today's testimony:

A member of St Michaels' vestry testified that he witnessed an argument between Jane and Blob in January 2012 (if I recall the date correctly) while the witness and Jane were counting the collection funds in the counting room.  Bob was asked to leave by the witness because his presence was not allowed, and his bevhavior was not appropriate.

Staphanie Samuels testified that in July 2012 she was called to the Comerica Bank in Grosse Pointe Woods by her Aunt Nancy Bashara to see the safe deposit box that Laura, Nancy and Bob shared.  Inside that box Nancy had found a pouch with a handgun.  She showed it to Laura and Stephanie.  They took the gun to the Middlesex house, hid it, showed it to David Griem.  David Griem took the gun off their hands.  Staphanie did not notify the police.  (it was here that they played the clip of the Dateline interview where Blob vehemently denies having a gun). She then testified that Bob she had assisted Bob in getting character letters from tenants and admitted that she wrote/typed the letter for one tenant (she actually only admitted to dictating the letter for the tenant).  Then she testified that Bob called her from jail and asked her to evict a specific tenant for him.  She also testified that she had seen the discovery documents that David Griem gave them regarding the solicitation case for Bob against Gentz.  Also there were forms she found in August 2013 in files of Bob's in her basement but I was interrupted so missed the significance of those papers. Oh, and Stephanie testified that she heard a phone message about an old "Boyfriend" I think maybe of Jane's that maybe could be a POI. She testified that Bob seemed excited about it. Guess this was the new POI that Griem and Bob talked so much about, eh?

Then Nancy Bashara took the stand, and corroborated the story of finding the gun in the safe deposit box, showing it to Stephanie and Laura, taking it home, hiding it, and giving it to David Griem.  She further testified that the pouch that the gun was in was in a bag of jewelry, watches and coins that Bob gave Nancy to place in the safe deposit box at Comerica Bank in March 2012.  Nancy corroborated that she saw the pouch in the bag in Marrch, but did not look in it.  Then she corroborated that no one else had signed in to access the safe deposit between March and July 2012 when she saw the pouch still there, opened it, and found the hand gun.  Lastly. Nancy testified that she did let Bob use her phone, but denied making a phone call to a tipline for the case or calling Ruth to the rescue (clearly we will be hearing more about THAT later when we find out that such a call was most likely made from Nancy's phone).

After Nancy Bashara a Michigan State police officer took the stand to testify that she was called to recover a gun from David Griem's office in September 2013 that was in the same pouch identified by both Nancy and Stephanie.

Next a friend of Bob's took the stand and stated that he had been introduced to the BDSM lifestyle by Blob, invited to parties at the dungeon, met Rachel there.  Testified that Rachel was Blobs girl (and slave) and that the plan was to buy a house with her and have a life together.  He also testified that Bob was not happy in his marriage and that Jane was totally opposed to the BDSM lifestyle.  He then testified that in July of 2011 during a lunch meeting Blob inquired if the witness knew anyone who could "rough up" an annoying tenant.  Lastly, the witness testified that he had received a call from Bob from jail that his name was being given to someone name Richard.  Just a guess here, but maybe this was the threat or Intimidation of witnesses and we will hear more later?

Finally, Jane's best friend took the stand and testified that Jane was not OK with Bob's lifestyle (he watched porn and used the kid's email addresses to pretend he was them and sent inappropriate emails), that Bob lied all the time, that Jane suspected Bob stole $10,000 from her 401K, that he was gone A LOT for the last few months of her life, and that she did not want a divorce, although Bob had mentioned it once.  

Did I miss anything?  Feel free to fill in the blanks!!
BBM

The way I heard it, the other "suspect" was the new boyfriend of an ex-tenant named April whom bb had evicted. Her ex-boyfriend contacted bb, Stephanie heard the message, and the ex-boyfriend told bb the new boyfriend was out to get him because he evicted April and she owed him money.

Anyone else hear that??


Thank you for clarifying that, End-- I was distracted by a couple phone calls during this part of the testimony so was fuzzy on who's old "boyfriend" it was!

chewet

chewet

Thank you so much Shadow, Justice for the recaps! And to Kitty & Shadow on the old post for real-time updates. It's great to be able to scroll on-the-go.

I love you ((((Family)))) I love you  No words. Still just plain dumbfounded.

God Bless Team Lindsey, especially all the amazing investigators!! cheers 

kittygirl

kittygirl

Free press has a liveblog that I found last night too. When I find the link for today I'll post it. You can also ask questions of the girl doing the live blog.

EllsBells

EllsBells

Why the delay? Did Bashara escape too?

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kittygirl

kittygirl

They are waiting on Bob according to the live blog and Judge King does not look too happy

kittygirl

kittygirl

here comes Bob, we are getting started!

kittygirl

kittygirl

medical examiner...this is going to be difficult to listen to.

EllsBells

EllsBells

Boob's appearing to be upset --- wiping eyes, putting hand to his head, moving around in his chair, trying to look sad --- is hysterical. He's a terrible actor.

EllsBells

EllsBells

Imo, this is probably the first time Boob ever turned his back on a camera, but now he's camera shy.  I've never seen a court proceeding where the defendant has his back to the witness and judge.  it seems very disrespectful. Surprised that the judge allows this.

Mad

chewet

chewet

kittygirl wrote:Live Blog:  http://live.freep.com/Event/Live_blog_Day_2_of_Bob_Bashara_preliminary_exam_in_Jane_Bashara_murder_case
Thanks Kitty.

Just pulled this livestream link up too, the blog is running side-by-side:

http://www.freep.com/livestream/article/20130910/NEWS05/130909012/Watch-live-9-m-Testimony-continue-Bob-Bashara-preliminary-exam-

chewet

chewet

Over and over again this morning the pattern of Monster's sociopathic "grooming" of Gentz is becoming ever more clear. Evil or Very Mad  Evil. Pure evil.

meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

Summary of preliminary hearing morning of day 2.  The day began with the Medical Examiner walking us through exhibits 13-18 of Jane Bashara's autopsy.  He determined that she endured multiple blunt force trauma to the head, neck, and upper chest with an unknown object with sufficient enough force to crush her trachea and tear cartiledge from her voice box.  Her body showed evidence of strangulation- which was the cause of death.  The manner of death ruled as Homicide.  Her death was not quick, at least 3-4 min of beatings and struggling before succombing to the strangulation.  One of her nails was torn.  Her nails were clipped during autopsy. And sent to crime lab for DNA analysis .  Cross exam was uneventful.  

Next witness was the ATF phone forensic expert who walked us through all of the cell phone evidence against Bashara.  Highlights include frantic calls to Gentz (33) -unanswered except for 3- in the 3-4 days prior to the murder,  that there were over 400 calls between the 2 cell phones from Sept 2011- January 31 2012, Rachel was numero uno based on almost 1000 phone calls between them August 2011 - January  31 2012. Oregon slave had regular contact even after Blobs visit to her in January 2012 which was corroborated by Blobs cell phone pings. Cell phone records indicated that Blob did not make repeated calls to Jane's cell phone the night of her murder, that Steve Tibado did not initiate contact with blob as a setup but blob overwhelmingly contacted Steve more than the reverse, and that nancy basharas cell phone was used to call tips in to hotlines.  Nancy Bashara denied making those calls but admitted to letting Bob use her phone.  Extensive cross exam to discredit the reports completed by the witness were in my opinion unsuccessful.

Lastly Rebecca forton testified that blob encouraged her to rent to joe, was often angry when he didn't get his way, seemed in control of joe  (who in her opinion seemed  non threatening and non confrontational even though big), and indicated that joe said he would soon be coming into money (this was in December of 2011).

Fasten your seat belts the afternoon is gonna be a wild ride!

Laker

Laker

This just makes me ill. vomit7

meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

The afternoon's testimony about Bob attempting to get someone "t boned", get insulin, get Gentz taken care of by Steve Tibaudo and testimony about his cocaine use, association with criminals (felons), and paying felons to call in false tips makes one extremely nauseated.  Cross examination has not been efective at all in lessening the powerfujl impact that the evidence being presented has on anyone who hears it.  Talk about tip of the iceberg!  The least credible witness was Paul Monroe, but I still believed every word he said!  How chilling that after snorting cocaine Bob actually admitted to the murder!  Because divorce is losing money.  What a depraved pig!  And who knew that there was further he could sink?



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meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

Isn't it incomprehensible that in our society women often feel so insecure about themselves that we continually allow ourselves to get sucked in by sociopathic predators that further strip us of our dignity and self confidence ? It's a sad sad world to think how a smart, funny, giving woman like Jane could possibly end up with someone as vile as Bob Bashara. To coin the kids of today--- WTF?

silver1



Thank you, Shadow, for the recap. Wasn't able to watch today.

EllsBells

EllsBells

Another great summary, thanks Shadow.

Tibaudo said today that when he first met Gentz he felt sorry for him and asked Bashara if he could rent him an apartment, obviously showing compassion for the man.  So why 6 months later would Bob ask Tibaudo to find a hitman to kill Gentz, someone he saw as sympathetic?  How stupid ...

After trying for months to find a hitman, Boob probably immediately saw Gentz as perfect for the role, --- strong but mentally/emotionally feeble.   So knowing he's going to use Gentz to kill his wife, why didn't BB just rent him one of his apartments and forgo rent --- looking like a normal tenant and not raising any suspicion?  Instead, he involves landlord Forton (also a police officer), openly and oddly pays Gentz's rent/utilities, then later asks Forton to illegally put the utilities in her name creating such a ruckus that she starts keeping notes.  How stupid ...

The day after Jane dies, Bob pays Gentz with a check, a check that bounces.  How stupid ...

BB doesn't throw out the gun/bullets, puts the gun in a jointly held safety deposit box, provokes a volatile tirade in public with his wife 2 days before murdering her, leaves a massive phone trail of contacts to the mistress &  hitman, doesn't realize the police will also track the phones of relatives, shows up in his own town looking to buy a house with a mystery woman weeks before the planned murder of his wife, openly intimidates many tenants not to talk with police, pays his real handyman to lie to police & call in bogus tips, and to top it off he --- as a person of interest likely under surveillance --- snorts cocaine in a car with a known felon at busy intersection and CONFESSES Jane's murder to the felon.   How stupid is he? Good for justice for Jane, bad for jailbird Blob.

Boy, I can't wait to see the forensics analysis of his computer, it too surely has a mountainous trail of incriminating evidence.

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meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

EllsBells wrote:Another great summary, thanks Shadow.

Tibaudo said today that when he first met Gentz he felt sorry for him and asked Bashara if he could rent him an apartment, obviously showing compassion for the man.  So why 6 months later would Bob ask Tibaudo to find a hitman to kill Gentz, someone he saw as sympathetic?  How stupid ...

After trying for months to find a hitman, Boob probably immediately saw Gentz as perfect for the role, --- strong but mentally/emotionally feeble.   So knowing he's going to use Gentz to kill his wife, why didn't BB just rent him one of his apartments and forgo rent --- looking like a normal tenant and not raising any suspicion?  Instead, he involves landlord Forton (also a police officer), openly and oddly pays Gentz's rent/utilities, then later asks Forton to illegally put the utilities in her name creating such a ruckus that she starts keeping notes.  How stupid ...

The day after Jane dies, Bob pays Gentz with a check, a check that bounces.  How stupid ...

BB doesn't throw out the gun/bullets, puts the gun in a jointly held safety deposit box, provokes a volatile tirade in public with his wife 2 days before murdering her, leaves a massive phone trail of contacts to the mistress &  hitman, doesn't realize the police will also track the phones of relatives, shows up in his own town looking to buy a house with a mystery woman weeks before the planned murder of his wife, openly intimidates many tenants not to talk with police, pays his real handyman to lie to police & call in bogus tips, and to top it off he --- as a person of interest likely under surveillance --- snorts cocaine in a car with a known felon at busy intersection and CONFESSES Jane's murder to the felon.   How stupid is he?  Good for justice for Jane, bad for jailbird Blob.

Boy, I can't wait to see the forensics analysis of his computer, it too surely has a mountainous trail of incriminating evidence.

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ITA, Ells!!! It boggles the mind how ridiculously easy he was to track just following his phone trail- just imagine what kind of wake the buffoon left on the computer? But what would you expect from someone stupid enough to steal J4j signs off peoples lawns repeatedly?

Fifteen30



I just found a link on You Tube that is a REPLAY of blob's preliminary hearing. It is split up into Part 1 for yesterday and Part 2 for today which is split into four segments.  Hope I am posting this correctly!   https://www.youtube.com/user/TheTawniDilly?feature=watch

EllsBells

EllsBells

Fifteen30 wrote:I just found a link on You Tube that is a REPLAY of blob's preliminary hearing. It is split up into Part 1 for yesterday and Part 2 for today which is split into four segments.  Hope I am posting this correctly!   https://www.youtube.com/user/TheTawniDilly?feature=watch
Great find, thanks 15/30.

chewet

chewet

EllsBells wrote:Another great summary, thanks Shadow.

Tibaudo said today that when he first met Gentz he felt sorry for him and asked Bashara if he could rent him an apartment, obviously showing compassion for the man.  So why 6 months later would Bob ask Tibaudo to find a hitman to kill Gentz, someone he saw as sympathetic?  How stupid ...

After trying for months to find a hitman, Boob probably immediately saw Gentz as perfect for the role, --- strong but mentally/emotionally feeble.   So knowing he's going to use Gentz to kill his wife, why didn't BB just rent him one of his apartments and forgo rent --- looking like a normal tenant and not raising any suspicion?  Instead, he involves landlord Forton (also a police officer), openly and oddly pays Gentz's rent/utilities, then later asks Forton to illegally put the utilities in her name creating such a ruckus that she starts keeping notes.  How stupid ...

The day after Jane dies, Bob pays Gentz with a check, a check that bounces.  How stupid ...

BB doesn't throw out the gun/bullets, puts the gun in a jointly held safety deposit box, provokes a volatile tirade in public with his wife 2 days before murdering her, leaves a massive phone trail of contacts to the mistress &  hitman, doesn't realize the police will also track the phones of relatives, shows up in his own town looking to buy a house with a mystery woman weeks before the planned murder of his wife, openly intimidates many tenants not to talk with police, pays his real handyman to lie to police & call in bogus tips, and to top it off he --- as a person of interest likely under surveillance --- snorts cocaine in a car with a known felon at busy intersection and CONFESSES Jane's murder to the felon.   How stupid is he?  Good for justice for Jane, bad for jailbird Blob.

Boy, I can't wait to see the forensics analysis of his computer, it too surely has a mountainous trail of incriminating evidence.

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BBM. Unable to watch most of today's testimony, so I really appreciate the recaps here. Thank you Shadow!

Shout out @ Ells--your editorial just made the day!!! cheers 
sunnyflower  sunnyflower  sunny flower 

Fifteen30 thank you for the link because this "iceberg" we kept hearing about? Well, geez... sounds like as it melts away we must see the live version as well in order to actually believe it...Shocked Shocked Shocked 

kittygirl

kittygirl

Hey Bob...

Preliminary Hearing in the Bob Bashara Murder Trial 3u4qth

meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

kittygirl wrote:Hey Bob...

Preliminary Hearing in the Bob Bashara Murder Trial 3u4qth

HAHAHAHAHA........Razz Razz Razz Razz 

EllsBells

EllsBells

My heart goes out to Jessica, she did a great job today, so composed, forthright and completely believable.

chewet

chewet

EllsBells wrote:My heart goes out to Jessica, she did a great job today, so composed, forthright and completely believable.
Mine too.
What an amazing, strong, courageous, and brave young woman.

Glorybee

Glorybee

chewet wrote:
EllsBells wrote:My heart goes out to Jessica, she did a great job today, so composed, forthright and completely believable.
Mine too.
What an amazing, strong, courageous, and brave young woman.
I totally agree. Jane can once again be proud of the daughter she raised. Just wish I could give Jessica a big hug for being so brave. God bless Jane and her children, also Jane's family members.

kittygirl

kittygirl

Jessica is an extraordinary young woman. So strong and composed. I can't imagine being able to do what she was able to do.

Bricktop

Bricktop

Unbelievably poised and strong, you're all right. I hope that blob feels SOMETHING for putting his beautiful daughter through this. He makes me sick.

EllsBells

EllsBells

Bricktop wrote:Unbelievably poised and strong, you're all right.  I hope that blob feels SOMETHING for putting his beautiful daughter through this.  He makes me sick.
Yes, he certainly feels something, but not anything normal --- rather feeling an overwhelming rage as he's been enabled his whole life to get away with crossing boundaries, to lie, cheat, and bully for intimidating those who see his true colours.  

If there's a closed circuit tv in his cell, he's probably punching at his mattress, screaming, and throwing things around. I won't be surprised if at some point in this hearing or the trial he erupts in anger, it's got to be eating away at his fragile reserve.


Shocked 

.

kittygirl

kittygirl

false advertising....rachel is not up next!

kittygirl

kittygirl

RACHEL is up!

meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

EllsBells wrote:
Bricktop wrote:Unbelievably poised and strong, you're all right.  I hope that blob feels SOMETHING for putting his beautiful daughter through this.  He makes me sick.
Yes, he certainly feels something, but not anything normal --- rather feeling an overwhelming rage as he's been enabled his whole life to get away with crossing boundaries, to lie, cheat, and bully for intimidating those who see his true colours.  

If there's a closed circuit tv in his cell, he's probably punching at his mattress, screaming, and throwing things around. I won't be surprised if at some point in this hearing or the trial he erupts in anger, it's got to be eating away at his fragile reserve.


Shocked 

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Someone on the Freep blog said Blob is SMILING at Rachel~!!!!!!!!

kittygirl

kittygirl

he was giving her quite a stare for awhile....

meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

Power Outage in the Frank Murphy Hall of Justice.  The building is now being evacuated....Evil or Very Mad

kittygirl

kittygirl

meandmyshadow wrote:Power Outage in the Frank Murphy Hall of Justice.  The building is now being evacuated....Evil or Very Mad
at the best part, too!

loc



unreal ,Frank Murphy Hall of Justice a power outage?

meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

kittygirl wrote:
meandmyshadow wrote:Power Outage in the Frank Murphy Hall of Justice.  The building is now being evacuated....Evil or Very Mad
at the best part, too!
It's as if those 2 in the same room together was just too much for the Heavens--and they "smote" the building!!!

EllsBells

EllsBells

Escapee on day 1, courthouse on lockdown
Thirty minute delay on day 2, BB not ready.
Power outage on day 3, courthouse evacuated.

How many weird turns has this case already had? Any one writing the story of the Bashara murder is going to have a hard time convincing readers it's for real.

What's next, someone dies in the court room?

Geez ...

Mad

meandmyshadow

meandmyshadow

Building closed for the rest of the day. Hearing will resume at 9 am tomorrow....

chewet

chewet

Power outage downtown Detroit. The sound of helicopters tho outside Frank Murphy Hall of Justice



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EllsBells

EllsBells

Court closed for today, resume tomorrow.  Good, BB gets to stew all night about what Rachel will say to dig his hole even deeper.  

Betrayals left and right and no way to get back at his family and ex-friends ... he's got to be very very hot.

cheers

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