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1 Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Sun 13 May 2012, 6:14 pm

If anyone needs help of how to set up or navigate this forum this is the place to ask.

Also, experienced bloggers (or anyone with a good idea) I welcome any/all suggestions!!!


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2 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Sun 13 May 2012, 6:23 pm

Hi, Migraine. Trying to get my feet under me.
It is difficult to find my way around and there aint too many trees yet! What a Face


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3 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 12:10 am

Freckles wrote:Hi, Migraine. Trying to get my feet under me.
It is difficult to find my way around and there aint too many trees yet! What a Face

I am finding me way around too! I can't believe I made a forum today! So far it seems that we can do most everything we could on THM...just tell me what you need and I can probably figure it out.....


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4 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 1:41 am

I added the forum to Google so hopefully we will be searchable....time will tell if it works, though....hope so!!


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5 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 8:25 am

We are now searchable on Google as "justice4jane", but I like the idea of changing the name to reference Hinky refugees....I need to investigate to see if that requires me re-adding it to google or not.... more to follow. Plus I hope Val would be OK with it!


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6 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 8:58 am

I made some changes to our description of our site for Google searching that will hopefully help with Google Search. It takes a little time for it to filter into the Google side of things so we'll see!!


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7 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 12:43 pm

starzinmyeyes2 wrote:Does anyone have a link to the dateline show? I was at my daughter's high school graduation, and missed it!
It's better to post this in already existing thread, rather than to start another one ( it's only my opinion however Smile )

To Moderators / Admin: Maybe it's better to transfer the above post to already existing thread, HERE: http://justice4jane.forumotion.com/t5-reactions-to-the-dateline-inteview

To Moderators / Admin: Maybe it's better to set up the board, so only Moderators and Admin are able to create new threads (in this "Main" sub-forum at the very least or anyhow) ... with other members being able to post replies, but not create new threads.

For example i am not a Moderator at this sub-forum HERE: http://justice4jane.forumotion.com/f4-jane-bashara-case

BUT see that currently i have permission there to:
You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum

To Moderators / Admin: After reading this post of mine ... - please delete it Wink


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8 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 1:09 pm

Ha ha!! Way ahead of you DM! I already merged them. I learn fast!!! BTW I have added us to google, and uploaded our sitemap, have made a few changes to the search engine descriptors but am still not happy with the searching on google. Can only find us if I search with "Justice" and "Jane" in combination with various other terms as search terms. Hmmm... any other suggestions?


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9 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 1:19 pm

migraine wrote:We are now searchable on Google as "justice4jane", but I like the idea of changing the name to reference Hinky refugees....I need to investigate to see if that requires me re-adding it to google or not.... more to follow. Plus I hope Val would be OK with it!
Doesn't show in the perfect way yet (not in the way i would like it to show anyhow, lol)
It's only showing if search, for "justice4jane" (with show ALL results)
However if narrow the search, for example search for "justice4jane" (show results in last 24 hours only) - it's not showing.

or if enter say two words into Search there example "justice4jane bashara" - for some reason nothing is showing also.

Don't know.. maybe it takes some time to fully "kick in" there at Google ... time will show.

migraine wrote:I made some changes to our description of our site for Google searching that will hopefully help with Google Search. It takes a little time for it to filter into the Google side of things so we'll see!!
Yes.. i see that site description here above contains now:

A home for Hinky Meter Refugees and others seeking to share and search for an answer in the Jane Bashara murder!

"Hinky Meter" string mention.

Which is good... i just hope it will eventually shows up at google better than now Smile
You can try to make few various searches at google now .. with various options or search choices... - it's not showing up "very good" yet Sad
Hopefully it's just a matter of time.


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10 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 1:21 pm

migraine wrote:Ha ha!! Way ahead of you DM! I already merged them. I learn fast!!! BTW I have added us to google, and uploaded our sitemap, have made a few changes to the search engine descriptors but am still not happy with the searching on google. Can only find us if I search with "Justice" and "Jane" in combination with various other terms as search terms. Hmmm... any other suggestions?
haha..
read my above post Smile

as to "Ha ha!! Way ahead of you DM" ----- LOL ... Well i didn't want to simply say "move it please there or there" .. i wanted to explain the reasons why and give some suggestions for the future Wink

I hope i am not giving you a migraine yet, migraine ... Very Happy


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11 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 1:26 pm

Can only find us if I search with "Justice" and "Jane" in combination with various other terms as search terms. Hmmm... any other suggestions?
Unfortunately i am not expert on "adding to Google" for Search purposes...

The only thing i thought of earlier and told you was to add ever popular string "Hinky Meter" somewhere in Forum Name (or in forum description at the very least)

Other than that - i have no clue. Maybe there is some better way, more efficient way to add forum's details, "search catches" etc to Google.. - I don' know Sad


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12 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 8:52 pm

I see Google just found this forum .. on 3rd page of search for Bashara (show last 24 hours result option)

Free forum : Justice For Jane
justice4jane.forumotion.com
16 hours ago - Free forum : A home for those of us wanting to share and search for an answer in the Jane Bashara murder!

Looks like it's from 16 hours ago .. and still no "Hinky Meter" is shown in description ... probably will update it later on.


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13 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 9:00 pm

Darkman wrote:I see Google just found this forum .. on 3rd page of search for Bashara (show last 24 hours result option)

Free forum : Justice For Jane
justice4jane.forumotion.com
16 hours ago - Free forum : A home for those of us wanting to share and search for an answer in the Jane Bashara murder!

Looks like it's from 16 hours ago .. and still no "Hinky Meter" is shown in description ... probably will update it later on.

well at least we're making some progress! ...you have been very helpful to me. This blog has made tremendous strides already in a short time thanks, in a large part, to your comments and suggestions. You do have a lot of them though! Whew! Hard to keep up.... Shocked


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14 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 9:35 pm

Don't worry about it ... don't have to keep up with me... - sometimes you can even pretend i am talking to myself Smile

Look at this .. search at Google for: bashara justice4jane (2 words search string)
https://www.google.ca/search?q=bashara&hl=en&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=imvns&psj=1&ei=KX2wT47KAsbEgQfG9N2jCQ&start=10&sa=N&biw=1680&bih=959&cad=b&cad=cbv&sei=TIuwT7DbLM_wggeDrbjBCQ#hl=en&tbo=1&tbs=qdr:d&sclient=psy-ab&q=bashara+justice4jane&oq=bashara+justice4jane&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...9231.9699.2.9912.4.4.0.0.0.0.157.568.0j4.4.0...0.0.f5CQM5Rf5Po&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=1770c6232f6a2377&biw=1680&bih=916

The result:

Free forum : Justice For Jane
justice4jane.forumotion.com/?mode=delete_cookies
16 hours ago - Free forum : A home for those of us wanting to share and search for an answer in the Jane Bashara murder!

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BBM

what does this ?mode=delete_cookies mean? .. or / and why is it showing there? .. Any clue? ... or is it needed? (generally i don't see that "thingy" is shown in search results)

P.S.
Talked to Nieschk and Alessandra at other forum(s) .. and gave them the link to this forum, so hopefully will arrive here some day Smile


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15 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Mon 14 May 2012, 11:50 pm

Oh! Cool! .. i see the bot Smile

In total there are 2 users online :: 0 Registered, 1 Hidden and 1 Guest :: 1 Bot
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Bots : Google

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Hopefully it works!
Positive news, in any case .. thanks! Very Happy


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16 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Tue 15 May 2012, 12:11 am

Darkman wrote:Don't worry about it ... don't have to keep up with me... - sometimes you can even pretend i am talking to myself Smile

Look at this .. search at Google for: bashara justice4jane (2 words search string)
https://www.google.ca/search?q=bashara&hl=en&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=imvns&psj=1&ei=KX2wT47KAsbEgQfG9N2jCQ&start=10&sa=N&biw=1680&bih=959&cad=b&cad=cbv&sei=TIuwT7DbLM_wggeDrbjBCQ#hl=en&tbo=1&tbs=qdr:d&sclient=psy-ab&q=bashara+justice4jane&oq=bashara+justice4jane&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...9231.9699.2.9912.4.4.0.0.0.0.157.568.0j4.4.0...0.0.f5CQM5Rf5Po&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=1770c6232f6a2377&biw=1680&bih=916

The result:

Free forum : Justice For Jane
justice4jane.forumotion.com/?mode=delete_cookies
16 hours ago - Free forum : A home for those of us wanting to share and search for an answer in the Jane Bashara murder!

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BBM

what does this ?mode=delete_cookies mean? .. or / and why is it showing there? .. Any clue? ... or is it needed? (generally i don't see that "thingy" is shown in search results)

I do NOT think this "mode=delete_cookies" is such a good thing.

i clicked on Googles link for the forum (found at Google)

and it took me here to the forum .. but gave me almost blank screen .. telling me:

Are you sure you wish to delete your forum cookies ? ( Yes or No )

So ... i didn't want to delete forum's cookie etc.. - simply clicked Back button .. and got out of there......

Never seen something like that before .. in Google finds .. links with "delete_cookie" mode Rolling Eyes



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17 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Tue 15 May 2012, 12:31 am

I have no idea what the cookies thing could be. I just searched "bashara justice4jane" and got only "justice4jane.forumotion.com/" with no delete cookies extension...hmmmm


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18 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Tue 15 May 2012, 12:47 am

hmmmmm is right Smile

Just tried it again.. same thing.. with extension ...

Wonder if it has anything to do that i am browsing Google being logged in to Google's account (Google, Gmail etc)

HOWEVER .. In no other Google finds do i get this or similar extension ... - ONLY for this forum somehow ... go figure, lol

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at the same time .. i guess i DO have a cookie here... when logged in (for the first time) .. i told the forum to "remember me" .. so it probably gave me a cookie.. and maybe Google knows it / feels it .. and asks me if i want to delete it or not Smile

In any case.. it's not a big deal .. as long as others can get here hassle-free Smile ... myself, i know how to get her Very Happy


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19 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Tue 15 May 2012, 10:06 am

Is there "Thank You" button / feature in this kind of forum style / design?

If there is - it maybe could be of some use to activate it ... - Some people might want to use it / click on it as an acknowledgement of the read post, to thank the poster for the post etc...

Not sure if it's a good idea or not, but some forums do have this feature.
Also not sure if this forum's software (PunBB / phpBB) even has this feature built-in in it... Rolling Eyes


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20 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Tue 15 May 2012, 2:06 pm

I don't think "Search" function is working (not for me anyhow)

I even tried entering any word into Search ... - "No matches" Rolling Eyes

Anyone else?


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21 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Tue 15 May 2012, 4:14 pm

Darkman wrote:I don't think "Search" function is working (not for me anyhow)

I even tried entering any word into Search ... - "No matches" Rolling Eyes

Anyone else?

Right now it's only searching keywords to the titles of the forums/threads, but not post content. Other forums have had the same problem. I am working on how to fix this.


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22 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Wed 16 May 2012, 1:19 pm

Entered "hinky bashara" ... in 24-hour search mode ... - The forum is NOT showing at all now Sad

What gives, i wonder? Rolling Eyes


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23 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Wed 16 May 2012, 3:03 pm

Darkman wrote:Entered "hinky bashara" ... in 24-hour search mode ... - The forum is NOT showing at all now Sad

What gives, i wonder? Rolling Eyes
Possibly the problem is, currently, that Google updates only Forum's Main Page changes .. but NOT the individual threads (or the main discussion thread).

Also ... yesterday i saw a "nice" color Google Bot sitting / lurking in the Bottom of Forum's Main Page.. - but i just looked there and it's gone (currently anyhow)

I recall at Hinky Meter .. those Google Bots (and maybe even some other Bots, such as Bing Bots etc) were always lurking .. and not ONLY on Forum's main page ... but also in individual discussion threads.. - i recall it often was sitting on the bottom of the Most current Bashara case discussion, showing among not "hidden' people and among guests.

Twice this forum showed up at Google .. - i think was:
1st time - New Forum was created containing Jane Bashara in it's description -- so eventually it showed up at Google)
2nd time - Forum Description was changed ("Hinky Meter" words string was added to description -- so eventually it showed up at Google.

And that's it looks like Very Happy

And noticed when were clicking on those Gooogle links / matches - the links were to the Forum's Main Page (where those changes / new changes containing what was searched in Google occurred) .. BUT NOT to the Main Jane Bashara discussion (individual thread) where new posts (containing what is being searched at Google) show up by the dozen often on a constant basis.

I recall ... if say searched for word "Bashara" in Google and new posts were posted in Jane Bashara threads at Websleuths, JusticeQuest, Hinky Meter etc ... - pretty quickly those would show up at Google searches (with Hinky Meter, often, almost instantly ... showing how efficiently Hinky Meter vs Google worked)
And if click on those finds / matches at Google - the link would take on right to the most current page of Jane Bashara discussion (and not on Main Pages of those individual forums)

I think that is where our problem maybe is.

Also ... i recall - at Hinky Meter, WS, JQ etc.. - when browsing Bashara case discussions ... one can see who is browsing the thread (on the bottom there), unless person is "hidden"

Here, however, i noticed that forum is only showing who is browsing the forum on Forum's Main Page and in each individual Sub-Forum also, i think .. BUT NOT in individual threads, such as main Jane Bashara discussion thread (if look on the bottom there .. you can NOT see who is browsing the thread .. never-ever)))

Maybe THAT IS preventing thread's info to properly show up / be updated at Google ... and, therefore, when searching in Google it simply bypasses all the individual threads.. and ONLY is looking in forum's Main Page and it's Sub-forums.

Any chance to do all those things?

1. to tell Google to include the individual discussions also (when searching) and not only Main Page and sub-forums.

2. to make it somehow that Forum would show "who is browsing in each individual discussion" (and not only Main page and sub-forums.)

3. to maybe include 'em Google Bots (and any other similar Bots, if available) to do the same --- not only visit and "sit" on Forum's Main Page or / and Sub-forums .. but ALSO to do the same in discussion threads containing considerable amount of posts.

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24 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Wed 16 May 2012, 4:00 pm

I just googled "Jane Bashara Hinky Meter" and got us on top of page three for "anytime" but nothing for "last 24 hours". I think because of all the talk re: Jane's Mother filing police report in the last 24 hours. I am still working on it. Try to get those bots back up...


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25 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Thu 17 May 2012, 2:00 pm

nope i don't ... but as an Admin here you try to contact Admin at RC to see if some day (when he / she has time) to maybe give you some tips on how to better be shown at Google, if someone searches


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26 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Sat 19 May 2012, 2:32 pm

Thanks to the Google bots we now show up on the FIRST page of "past 24 hours" searching "Jane bashara hinky meter" AND when searching just "Jane bashara" !!!! cheers


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27 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Sat 19 May 2012, 3:18 pm

Yes! Sure do!
Just entered at Google: hinky bashara -- 24 hours mode -- shows up on 1st page Smile

Pretty good, considering few posts were lost there earlier (in thread backup / restore).

Very good news for the forum! ... Congrats!

BTW,
Simply entering at Google word: bashara -- 24 hours mode - forum shows up on page 2 currently Smile


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28 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Sat 19 May 2012, 3:43 pm

Migraine, I searched Google Justice for Jane Forum and it showed up first.


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29 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Sat 19 May 2012, 5:51 pm

Just simply typed the word bashara -- in "Past Hour" mode ... and it showed up first Very Happy

C/P:

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30 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Sat 19 May 2012, 11:56 pm

Darkman wrote:Just simply typed the word bashara -- in "Past Hour" mode ... and it showed up first Very Happy

C/P:

Please Review our Forum Guidelines
justice4jane.forumotion.com/f8-please-review-our-forum-guidelines
1 minute ago - Please Review our Forum Guidelines - A home for Hinky Meter Refugees and others seeking to share and search for an answer in the Jane Bashara murder!

Hot Dayum!!!! Razz Exclamation


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31 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Sun 20 May 2012, 4:17 pm

Search feature doesn't work at the forum yet...

But in a Search feature at the forum .. there is a "Google" option ... so i "doted" it, entered "bashara" (just to try it) .. and was shown many results on Google... one of which caught my attention, lol:

Today's Top 20 Posters: http://justice4jane.forumotion.com/memberlist?mode=today_posters

Very Happy


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32 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Thu 24 May 2012, 8:44 pm

Entered at Google: "Bashara" in 24 hour mode .. and forum came up 1st on 1st page .. Here is screenshot:




Where did those yellow / gold stars and Rating come from? ... from those 3 reviews (that says exist currently)?

How to read those reviews, btw, any clue? .. I am on Chrome (browser) currently.


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33 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Fri 25 May 2012, 12:56 am

Darkman wrote:Entered at Google: "Bashara" in 24 hour mode .. and forum came up 1st on 1st page .. Here is screenshot:




Where did those yellow / gold stars and Rating come from? ... from those 3 reviews (that says exist currently)?

How to read those reviews, btw, any clue? .. I am on Chrome (browser) currently.


I don't know... I was trying to figure that our myself but couldn't


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34 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Tue 10 Jul 2012, 1:30 pm

It seems that I can not send a private message. This comes up: You haven't reached the post limit for sending private messages.
I wonder why and what is the post limit?

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35 Re: Ask for Help or be the Teacher!! on Wed 11 Jul 2012, 11:07 am

grace81203 wrote:It seems that I can not send a private message. This comes up: You haven't reached the post limit for sending private messages.
I wonder why and what is the post limit?

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