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1 ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 14 May 2012, 7:43 am

Per request I have given us an "Archive" thread. Let's see how much of the past we can piece together Very Happy


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2 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 14 May 2012, 7:51 am

Thanks Migraine....I am adding the ALT.com pages a few posters have asked for. LNS saved them, bless her and thank you for sharing all the information you gathered LNS! Smile


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3 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 14 May 2012, 8:29 am

This has a few of the old articles for reference points.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jane_Bashara


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4 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 14 May 2012, 8:48 am

Bashara Case Timeline:

http://thenewsherald.com/articles/2012/02/06/news/doc4f2f471b9092c582668226.txt


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5 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 14 May 2012, 9:13 am

Some old articles (borrowed from WS)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092755/Mystery-death-Jane-Bashara-mother-strangled-Mercedes-Benz.html

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/wayne_county/Copy_of_source-polygraph-for-murdered-grosse-pointe-park-womans-husband#ixzz1kmEApciU

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Exclusive-interview-in-Grosse-Pointe-Park-mother-s-murder/-/1719418/8561042/-/fklrw1/-/index.html

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/wayne_county/grosse-pointe-woman-was-murdered-cause-of-death-listed-as-strangulation

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Husband-s-family-of-Grosse-Pointe-Park-victim-speaks-out/-/1719418/8562622/-/14t54hlz/-/index.html

http://grossepointe.patch.com/articles/remembering-grosse-pointe-park-s-jane-bashara

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Mystery-man-is-new-lead-in-Grosse-Pointe-Park-mother-s-murder/-/1719314/8566684/-/qnuf9w/-/index.html

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Sources-Grosse-Pointe-Park-woman-s-killer-did-not-act-alone/-/1719314/8568588/-/vb1lfez/-/index.html

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Hundreds-attend-funeral-for-Jane-Bashara/-/1719314/8570874/-/gjgt7y/-/index.html

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/who-is-the-mystery-man-offering-a-reward-for-details-in-the-jane-bashara-murder-investigation

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/31/basharas-death-has-drawn-_n_1243717.html

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/New-questions-about-husband-s-story/-/1719418/8562956/-/112begpz/-/


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6 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 14 May 2012, 12:42 pm

And more:

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/wayne_county/sources-accomplice-under-arrest-in-bashara-murder-case#ixzz1l3tUTsfj

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Sources-Individual-claims-firsthand-knowledge-of-Jane-Bashara-murder/-/1719314/8560184/-/q06652z/-/

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/wayne_county/sources-accomplice-under-arrest-in-bashara-murder-case#ixzz1l4nzRNE0

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/police-talking-to-potential-%27accomplice%27-in-jane-bashara%27s-death-20120131

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/public-records-shed-light-on-bob-basharas-past-and-business-dealings

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/wayne_county/lawyer-says-bob-bashara-told-police-joseph-gentz-was-a-person-who-might-want-to-hurt-him-or-family

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Turns-twists-in-murder-case-of-Grosse-Pointe-Park-mom/-/1719314/8576342/-/wu7h7rz/-/


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7 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Tue 15 May 2012, 2:46 pm

I am testing a theory on how to get this forum to show up faster. Everyone feel free to add more"headliners" so to speak that they think people use when looking for news on the case:


The Hinky Meter has shut down, Jane Bashara, Bob Bashara, Master Bob, Slave Rachel, Grosse Pointe dungeon, Hardluck Lounge,Justice for Jane, Middlesex Road, Alt.com posts, Jane Bashara WDIV, Jane Bashara Hinky Meter, Jane Bashara Websleuths, Valhall, Joe Gentz handyman arrested in jail,


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8 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Wed 16 May 2012, 2:11 pm

This site is also pretty good summary of what happened with this case to-date:

http://www.examiner.com/topic/bashara-murder-investigation/articles

http://www.examiner.com/topic/bashara-murder-investigation
http://www.examiner.com/article/bashara-murder-investigation-update-part-2



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9 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Wed 16 May 2012, 2:22 pm


Nice! Thanks, DM!


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10 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Wed 16 May 2012, 3:41 pm

stina wrote:I am testing a theory on how to get this forum to show up faster. Everyone feel free to add more"headliners" so to speak that they think people use when looking for news on the case:


The Hinky Meter has shut down, Jane Bashara, Bob Bashara, Master Bob, Slave Rachel, Grosse Pointe dungeon, Hardluck Lounge,Justice for Jane, Middlesex Road, Alt.com posts, Jane Bashara WDIV, Jane Bashara Hinky Meter, Jane Bashara Websleuths, Valhall, Joe Gentz handyman arrested in jail,

Hinky Meter closed, Hinky Meter for sale, Hinky meter gone, what happened to the Hinky Meter, Joe Gentz hearing, Joe Gentz Bob Bashara, Bob Bashara arrest (don't I wish!), Bashara murder

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11 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Wed 16 May 2012, 4:26 pm

AnalyzeThis wrote:
stina wrote:I am testing a theory on how to get this forum to show up faster. Everyone feel free to add more"headliners" so to speak that they think people use when looking for news on the case:


The Hinky Meter has shut down, Jane Bashara, Bob Bashara, Master Bob, Slave Rachel, Grosse Pointe dungeon, Hardluck Lounge,Justice for Jane, Middlesex Road, Alt.com posts, Jane Bashara WDIV, Jane Bashara Hinky Meter, Jane Bashara Websleuths, Valhall, Joe Gentz handyman arrested in jail,

Hinky Meter closed, Hinky Meter for sale, Hinky meter gone, what happened to the Hinky Meter, Joe Gentz hearing, Joe Gentz Bob Bashara, Bob Bashara arrest (don't I wish!), Bashara murder
Actually, i think, it also (and, maybe even, more) has to do with what i wrote in this Forum's post: (when was thinking out loud earlier) Smile

http://justice4jane.forumotion.com/t7-ask-for-help-or-be-the-teacher#375

Noticed this before also ... but i see that they are, more or less, keeping up with "Jane Bashara Murder" case updates over at TruTV boards / forums:

http://boards.library.trutv.com/showthread.php?304157-Murder-of-Jane-Bashara-Grosse-Pointe-Mi

and i see they also talk about the case here: http://www.sportsinferno.com/threads/106110-Jane-Bashara-murder

also something else i came across: http://www.proteacher.net/discussions/showthread.php?t=389453

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Some other minor case related stuff i found on the net:

"...Anyone been following the Jane Bashara murder? Joe Gentz and his late dad were long time friends and have worked for me. Joe is not 'all there' but his dad kept him in line. If Joe did the alleged murder, someone had to plan it and tell him what to do. He has been arrested, arraigned, and a competency hearing scheduled, which is needed as one charge is 'conspiracy.'

My home land line phone exists only to support my DSL, one phone and an answering machine, no caller ID, etc. Most times the machine gets the call before me. (Mostly marketing calls.)

I haven't seen or talked to Joe since a couple months after his dad's death some three years ago.

It was somewhat surprising that Joe called the day after his 3 day hold, and left a message on the machine to call back. Trouble is, he left no number, so with no caller ID and other calls after his, I couldn't use the 'call back last caller' feature. Oh well.

Two other bits; last I knew, Joe lost his driver's license over thousands in unpaid fines, so I'm not sure if the alleged promise of a used Cadillac would have done him any good. He was married for a while, so maybe she got his tickets and finances straight, but maybe not as news reports say a friend is driving him.

News reports say the car and body were found near Seven Mile and Hoover, supposedly near one of his friend's properties. What they aren't saying, if they know, is that location is is about four blocks W and a block or two S of where Joe grew up."


Source: http://www.robingehood.com/viewtopic.php?p=165686#p165686


"Got my haircut a few weeks ago, the girl said Joe Gentz had been in there the day before, sounding like he was bragging about being in the spotlight, etc. I'd believe he's not 'all there'. That's my two cents."

Source: http://www.robingehood.com/viewtopic.php?p=165691#p165691

Some more talk about the case at that forum is here: http://www.robingehood.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=7370

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-- 1a judge needs to put a gag order on David Griem

-- A judge can't go ahead and put a gag order on an everyday citizen just because he feels like it. There are no charges, there's no trial, no judge assigned to any case.

-- I heard from a vey reliable source that old Bob was playing blackjack at the St. Joan of Arc fair last night. ( Mack south of 9 mile)

Source: http://mibuzzboard.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=34586&start=30

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Joe Gentz' father Richard Gentz passed away in 2009 - http://www.lakestclairwalleyeassociation.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=1608&forum_id=3

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-- I've known Joe for at least 15 years, we both belonged to the same club. Joe has a bad temper, is as big as a grizzly bear and as dumb as a bag of rocks. He is easily manipulated to do things he would never think of on his own. I can’t see him as the master mind in planning a murder. I could see him getting in a bar fight and really hurting someone, but not murder. As far as conflicting stories he is giving, he couldn’t give the same story about going to the corner store twice. He is that dumb.

-- Having known his entire family for over 30 yrs(same school and church) I can attest to the accuracy of your description. I would add that the entire family suffers from a diminished mental capacity yet Joe was the only one who showed an aggressive nature. He also was known to 'stretch' the truth for the sake of attention which may be one of the reasons for the delay in charging him.

-- I only had the pleasure ( Rolling Eyes ) of meeting Joe and his father so I don't know about the rest of the family. His father was no angel and had his own anger issues which he would vent in Joe's presence.

Source: http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=410016&page=2



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12 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Tue 22 May 2012, 7:29 am

Link to the Bob Bashara Dateline Interview


http://youtu.be/LyET6Kwn4cM


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13 Bashara Murder Mystery ... etc on Wed 23 May 2012, 7:00 pm

Bashara murder mystery: Chapter 1 -- Timeline video
February 17, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-murder-mystery-Chapter-1-Timeline/-/1719314/8797316/-/wk8jr5/-/index.html

Bashara murder mystery: Chapter 2 -- Jane's family video
February 17, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-murder-mystery-Chapter-2-Jane-s-family/-/1719314/8797214/-/kc8c30/-/index.html

Bashara murder mystery: Chapter 3 -- Joe Gentz video
February 17, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-murder-mystery-Chapter-3-Joe-Gentz/-/1719314/8797204/-/1c91x5/-/index.html

Bashara murder mystery: Chapter 4 -- The investigation video
February 17, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-murder-mystery-Chapter-4-The-investigation/-/1719314/8797322/-/pk3mmm/-/index.html

Bashara murder mystery: Chapter 5 -- Bob Bashara video
February 17, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-murder-mystery-Chapter-5-Bob-Bashara/-/1719314/8797338/-/moaqbbz/-/index.html

Bashara murder mystery: Chapter 6 -- Bob's secret life video
February 17, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-murder-mystery-Chapter-6-Bob-s-secret-life/-/1719314/8797380/-/6i8djf/-/index.html

Bashara murder mystery: Chapter 7 -- Grosse Pointe Park community video
February 17, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-murder-mystery-Chapter-7-Grosse-Pointe-Park-community/-/1719314/8797350/-/2ks9p4/-/index.html



Bashara murder mystery: Interview with David Griem video
February 17, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-murder-mystery-Interview-with-David-Griem/-/1719314/8797234/-/tisbjqz/-/index.html

Bashara murder mystery: Interview with Tom Berry video
February 17, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-murder-mystery-Interview-with-Tom-Berry/-/1719314/8797314/-/biwbyy/-/index.html

Bashara murder mystery: Interview with Todd Flood video
February 17, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-murder-mystery-Interview-with-Todd-Flood/-/1719314/8797274/-/6ho35f/-/index.html



Jane Bashara's family files police report article
May 15, 2012
Local 4 Defenders have learned that Lorraine Englebrecht, mother of Jane Bashara, has filed a police report stating she is ...
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Jane-Bashara-s-mother-files-police-report-against-Bob-Bashara/-/1719314/13407172/-/humeuu/-/index.html

Bashara murder witness comes forward article
February 29, 2012
The Local 4 Defenders have learned that a neighbor of Bob Bashara has come forward ...
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-murder-witness-comes-forward/-/1719314/9152100/-/lp8ck0/-/index.html

Bashara case: Oregon woman testifies article
February 21, 2012
The Local 4 Defenders have learned a mystery woman from Oregon spent hours Monday giving sworn testimony, under oath, regarding Bob Bashara, his involvement in the BDSM community and the possibility of a double life.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bashara-case-Oregon-woman-testifies-in-Michigan/-/1719314/8827454/-/aty6b1z/-/index.html

Is Cadillac key piece of evidence in Bashara murder mystery? video
February 21, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Is-Cadillac-key-piece-of-evidence-in-Bashara-murder-mystery/-/1719418/8827178/-/8icdul/-/index.html

Bashara murder mystery special article
February 20, 2012
On Thursday night, the Local 4 Defenders aired a special on the ongoing Jane Bashara murder investigation.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Defenders-Bashara-murder-mystery-special/-/1719314/8800826/-/q2tj6h/-/index.html

Developments in Bashara investigation article
February 04, 2012
Tonight there are new developments on the Grosse Pointe Park murder of Jane Bashara.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Developments-in-Bashara-murder-investigation/-/1719314/8596568/-/3jx985z/-/index.html

Lawyer: 'What do we do with Joe?' article
February 03, 2012
The attorney representing Bob Bashara held a...
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Lawyer-for-Bob-Bashara-What-do-we-do-with-Joe/-/1719314/8590858/-/pnb2vyz/-/index.html

Bashara family asks for protection article
February 03, 2012
Local 4 Defender cameras rolled Friday as Grosse Pointe Park police released Joe from custody... Watch the video inside.
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Local-4-Defenders-Joe-has-been-released/-/1719314/8591600/-/i825jdz/-/index.html

Bashara lawyer to hold press conference article
February 03, 2012
The attorney representing Bob Bashara said Friday he...
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bob-Bashara-s-lawyer-to-hold-Friday-press-conference/-/1719314/8590180/-/cmm8g1/-/index.html

Bashara attorney expects charges article
February 02, 2012
Despite maintaining that Bob Bashara did not kill his wife, defense attorney David Griem told the Local 4 Defenders charges might be coming ...
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Attorney-says-Bob-Bashara-passed-polygraph-question-about-murdering-his-wife/-/1719314/8585112/-/roiymrz/-/index.html

Murder mystery: Timeline of events article
February 01, 2012
The Jane Bashara murder mystery started with Jane being reported missing January 24th...
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Jane-Bashara-murder-mystery-timeline-of-events/-/1719314/8572124/-/12km5hr/-/index.html

Bashara speaks week after wife's death article
February 01, 2012
The husband of murdered Grosse Pointe Park mother Jane Bashara thanked supporters and called the situation horrific as he spoke Wednesday outside his home ...
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Bob-Bashara-speaks-outside-Grosse-Pointe-Park-home/-/1719314/8578590/-/11k88i1/-/index.html

Mystery man is ID'd in woman's murder video
January 30, 2012
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Mystery-man-is-ID-d-in-Grosse-Pointe-Park-woman-s-murder/-/1719418/8567260/-/q4uoodz/-/index.html


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14 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Tue 29 May 2012, 3:13 am

Val Hall, proprieter of the hinkymeter blog that has made explosive allegations about the Jane Bashara murder case, called into Charlie Langton’s show Thursday.

February 9, 2012 3:25 PM

---- AUDIO ----

part 1 (9:09)

part 2 (8:18)


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15 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Tue 29 May 2012, 3:31 am

Alleged Bashara Witness speaks

May 4, 2012

Supposed Bashara witness “Steve” gives his story of what went down in the murder of Jane Bashara. Charlie asks tough questions to “Steve” about his substantial claims.

---- podcast (Audio) (20:56) ---- Steve Virgona (Joe Gentz friend) speaks to Charlie Langton

Listen at the Source: Audio (20 min : 56 sec)

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Read the details of Steve Virgona's phone call to Charlie Langton HERE


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16 Radio Interviews in the Case on Tue 29 May 2012, 4:11 am

MOJO in the Morning ... Bashara related Audio:

(08:48) Bashara Murder Investigation - http://www.mojointhemorning.com/player/?mid=21783836

(10:08) Master Bob Bashara - http://www.mojointhemorning.com/player/?mid=21808634

(08:14) Did Bob Bashara Have A Fetish? Pt 1 - http://www.podcast.de/episode/110148950/Did%2BBob%2BBashara%2BHave%2BA%2BFetish%253F%2BPt%2B1/

(08:14) Did Bob Bashara Have A Fetish? Pt 2 - http://www.podcast.de/episode/110148954/Did%2BBob%2BBashara%2BHave%2BA%2BFetish%253F%2BPt%2B2


"Got my haircut a few weeks ago, the girl said Joe Gentz had been in there the day before, sounding like he was bragging about being in the spotlight, etc. I'd believe he's not 'all there'. That's my two cents."
That guy was probably talking about that "Dana" girl / hairdresser who called Mojo in the Morning and told them Joe Gentz came in for haircut after being released from police and was bragging about being in spotlight etc ... admitted to them that he killed Jane and that Bob Bashara made him do it ...

It's in this Mojo's Audio / podcast below:

(08:08) Bashara Murder ... (Joe Gentz) Got Haircut - http://www.podcast.de/episode/110148801/Bashara%2BMurder%2BGot%2BHaircut


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17 Dateline NBC - Bashara Special - May 11, 2012 on Tue 29 May 2012, 9:20 am

This case 1 hour special that was recently shown on Dateline NBC

Bashara Special

The entire show, free of commercials



or:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ-3Qg37q2k


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18 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Fri 15 Jun 2012, 8:03 pm

Thanks for the link


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19 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 02 Jul 2012, 12:36 pm

Stumbled on this and wanted to share:
June 11, 2012

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" GROSSE POINTE (WWJ) – Friends and supporters of Jane Bashara are mounting what they’re calling the “Justice For Jane (Bashara) campaign”.

Organizers say the purpose is to visibly show the Grosse Pointe community’s desire to bring to justice whoever murdered one of its most respected members.

They’ve begun selling yard signs, car magnets, wristbands, and purple tree ribbons — with the goal to have as many of them displayed as possible before what would have been Jane Bashara’s 57th birthday — on June 22.

Meantime, supporters of Jane’s husband, Bob Bashara, say ”Justice For Jane” is nothing more than a “lynch mob” targeting Bob, posing as a advocacy campaign.
(Stay tuned to WWJ Newsradio 950 for more on this)."

video
Info on J 4 J left side

Wow! They know nothing but automatically assume it is ALL about Blob! Wonder why that is?

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20 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Tue 03 Jul 2012, 8:12 am

Freckles wrote:Stumbled on this and wanted to share:
June 11, 2012

Clipped-
" GROSSE POINTE (WWJ) – Friends and supporters of Jane Bashara are mounting what they’re calling the “Justice For Jane (Bashara) campaign”.

Organizers say the purpose is to visibly show the Grosse Pointe community’s desire to bring to justice whoever murdered one of its most respected members.

They’ve begun selling yard signs, car magnets, wristbands, and purple tree ribbons — with the goal to have as many of them displayed as possible before what would have been Jane Bashara’s 57th birthday — on June 22.

Meantime, supporters of Jane’s husband, Bob Bashara, say ”Justice For Jane” is nothing more than a “lynch mob” targeting Bob, posing as a advocacy campaign.
(Stay tuned to WWJ Newsradio 950 for more on this)."

video
Info on J 4 J left side

Wow! They know nothing but automatically assume it is ALL about Blob! Wonder why that is?


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21 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 30 Jul 2012, 9:42 am

Updating with stories, links:

Bashara: If you're wearing a wire, shoot me now
Published On: Jul 24 2012 05:06:39 PM EDT


" Bob Bashara is accused of trying to have Gentz, who faces murder charges in Bashara's wife's death, killed while behind bars."

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Bashara-If-you-re-wearing-a-wire-shoot-me-now/-/1719418/15674212/-/6cyeytz/-/index.html


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22 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 30 Jul 2012, 9:48 am

Bashara ordered to stand trial on charge of attempting to have Joe Gentz killed
1:13 PM, July 24, 2012



" Bashara, whose preliminary exam was held today in Detroit's 36th District Court, was bound over for trial in Wayne County Circuit Court. He is accused of trying to put a hit out on Gentz, a handyman, who is charged with killing Bashara’s wife. "

" Tibaudo said he initially wrote a receipt for $20,000, but Bashara wouldn't sign it. So he then wrote one for $2,000 for the down payment that Bashara made and indicated it was for three refrigerators and three stoves."

" During cross-examination, Tibaudo testified he contacted authorities in the second week of June after Bashara, who owed him $502 for appliances, tried reaching him several times. Tibaudo said when he talked to Bashara by phone on June 18 -- a conversation he recorded -- that was the first time he had spoken with him in six months. "

" "He said that he needed to have Mr. Gentz taken care of before he went to his hearing," Tibaudo said, referring to a competency hearing for Gentz. He said Bashara said "this is my life," and he needed Gentz killed.

"I told him anybody could be hit anywhere they're at," Tibaudo said.

He said Bashara patted him down.

"He said, 'Are you wearing a wire?'" Tibaudo said. "I said, 'No, it's against my religion to wear a wire. I'm Sicilian.’"

Tibaudo said when he met with Bashara on one occasion, he had a recording device in his pocket, and on another occasion, he had a recording device on his keychain. "


http://www.freep.com/article/20120724/NEWS02/120724023/Bob-Bashara-ordered-to-stand-trial-on-charge-of-attempting-to-have-Joe-Gentz-killed?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|FRONTPAGE


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23 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 30 Jul 2012, 9:51 am

Freckles wrote:Bashara ordered to stand trial on charge of attempting to have Joe Gentz killed
1:13 PM, July 24, 2012



" Bashara, whose preliminary exam was held today in Detroit's 36th District Court, was bound over for trial in Wayne County Circuit Court. He is accused of trying to put a hit out on Gentz, a handyman, who is charged with killing Bashara’s wife. "

" Tibaudo said he initially wrote a receipt for $20,000, but Bashara wouldn't sign it. So he then wrote one for $2,000 for the down payment that Bashara made and indicated it was for three refrigerators and three stoves."

" During cross-examination, Tibaudo testified he contacted authorities in the second week of June after Bashara, who owed him $502 for appliances, tried reaching him several times. Tibaudo said when he talked to Bashara by phone on June 18 -- a conversation he recorded -- that was the first time he had spoken with him in six months. "

" "He said that he needed to have Mr. Gentz taken care of before he went to his hearing," Tibaudo said, referring to a competency hearing for Gentz. He said Bashara said "this is my life," and he needed Gentz killed.

"I told him anybody could be hit anywhere they're at," Tibaudo said.

He said Bashara patted him down.

"He said, 'Are you wearing a wire?'" Tibaudo said. "I said, 'No, it's against my religion to wear a wire. I'm Sicilian.’"

Tibaudo said when he met with Bashara on one occasion, he had a recording device in his pocket, and on another occasion, he had a recording device on his keychain. "


http://www.freep.com/article/20120724/NEWS02/120724023/Bob-Bashara-ordered-to-stand-trial-on-charge-of-attempting-to-have-Joe-Gentz-killed?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|FRONTPAGE

--- So BB owes ST over $500. Now he is going to pay him a down of $2,000 without first getting rid of the debt? Not too bright, is he? I am sure ST was rather upset BB had stiffed him the $500 so there was no love lost here; simple business transaction. However, based upon what happened at Dylan's I sure hope ST is not renting the property from BB!


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24 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 30 Jul 2012, 9:54 am

Local 4 legal expert not surprised by Bashara trial
Published On: Jul 24 2012 04:07:44 PM EDT

Vid-

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Local-4-legal-expert-not-surprised-by-Bashara-trial/-/1719314/15672608/-/fjt3si/-/index.html


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25 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 30 Jul 2012, 9:57 am


REGION: Griem explains quitting Bob Bashara, Stephen Grant cases


Published: Saturday, July 28, 2012

" “When you’re representing a defendant in a high profile case you have to be on the same page, and as it turned out Bob Bashara and I weren’t even in the same book,” he said. “The fees in that case are going to be very significant. I’m walking away from a lot of money. Even though it’s a homely face, I can look it in the mirror and feel good about myself.”"

http://www.thenewsherald.com/articles/2012/07/28/news/doc500fe494d0ecb031489391.txt?viewmode=fullstory


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26 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 30 Jul 2012, 10:04 am

Podcast: Starts @ 4:00
Todd Flood commentary

Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:19 AM

-- Solicitation to commit murder charges are for the welfare of ALL the witnesses, including RG

-- Amassing a great amount of material for the homicide charge

-- "Three of the finest prosecutor's in country"

--- Solicitation to commit murder will be used against BB in the murder trial, for sure.

-- Separation of atty and client: Sixth amendment right to choose any atty of our choosing; BB wanted to hire Mark Kreiger; judge will not allow it. Possibly Kreiger and Greim will team.


http://wjrpodcasts.com/podcasts/paulwsmith/Flood-072512.mp3


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27 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 30 Jul 2012, 10:07 am

Jane Bashara's mom locked out of daughter's home
Published On: Jul 24 2012 01:17:54 PM EDT
Video and print


"She won’t let us in and the police can’t do anything about it," said Englebrecht. "

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Jane-Bashara-s-mom-locked-out-of-daughter-s-home/-/1719314/15664020/-/dn3clz/-/index.html


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28 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 30 Jul 2012, 10:10 am

Families clash at Bashara's Grosse Pointe Park home
Published On: Jul 24 2012 06:09:25 PM EDT
Vid

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Families-clash-at-Bashara-s-Grosse-Pointe-Park-home/-/1719418/15675250/-/w8acysz/-/index.html

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29 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 30 Jul 2012, 10:13 am

Commentary: Atty Mark Kriger

http://www.freep.com/article/20080514/NEWS01/805140372/Attorneys-see-double-court-victories

http://www.larenekriger.com/


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30 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 30 Jul 2012, 10:15 am

Hearing:Tue Jul 24, 2012
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120724/METRO01/207240367


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31 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 30 Jul 2012, 10:20 am

Assorted links:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Is-Bashara-family-backing-Bob/-/1719418/15566172/-/n6ow4p/-/index.html

http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2012/07/20/news/doc500830551cbdd433526973.txt?viewmode=2


http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/19096496/2012/07/24/live-at-9-a-m-bob-bashara-in-court-for-preliminary-exam


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32 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Tue 31 Jul 2012, 10:30 am

Links for July 31, 2012: Hearing for BB case

July 31, 2012 at 9:57 am
Judge lets Bashara lawyers withdraw from case; arraignment postponed

" Detroit— A Wayne County Circuit Judge allowed the attorneys representing Robert Bashara to withdraw from the case on Tuesday."

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120731/METRO01/207310367#ixzz22CiKwcHn

Bob Bashara, original lawyers expected back in court today

" Bob Bashara, charged with trying to hire someone to orchestrate a hit on the man charged with murdering his wife, is expected back in court today."

-- related links on left side

http://www.freep.com/article/20120731/NEWS02/307310075/Bob-Bashara-original-lawyers-expected-back-in-court-today

TWITTER:
Grosse Pointe Patch 1 hr ago
http://twitter.com/GPPatch

Clipped--

Grosse Pointe Patch ‏@GPPatch
Judge Morrow states he will sign the order for a new lawyer for #Bashara.

Grosse Pointe Patch ‏@GPPatch
David Griem has arrived to represent #BobBashara in Wayne County Circuit Court.

From July 254th:


Grosse Pointe Patch ‏@GPPatch

Testimony led judge to bound over #BobBashara to trial in solicitation to murder: http://grossepointe.patch.com/articles/bob-bashara-to-stand-trial-for-conspiracy-to-murder … #GrossePointe #JaneBashara

Grosse Pointe Patch ‏@GPPatch

Wayne County Judge binds over #BobBashara to stand trial in Wayne Circuit Court for conspiracy to commit murder charges.

Grosse Pointe Patch ‏@GPPatch

In a Feb. 29 statement to the Wayne Prosecutors Office, witness Steve described Bashara as someone who "screws everyone out of their money."

Grosse Pointe Patch ‏@GPPatch

Bashara offers $2,000 to have Gentz killed. Sounds of money being counted could be heard on tape. #Bashara


Please go to the twitter site for more of the reports from the court.


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33 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Tue 31 Jul 2012, 10:32 am

Post 192 from Justice 4 Jane:

(WXYZ) - "The attorney for Bob Bashara says his client will likely face charges in connection with his wife's death.

Attorney David Griem says it appears that is the direction prosecutors are moving."

Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region/wayne_county/attorney-for-bob-bashara-says-he-will-be-charged-in-connection-with-wifes-death#ixzz22D6QH2xd


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34 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Tue 31 Jul 2012, 10:56 am

Archiving: Post 151
Justice 4 Jane said:

There is an exception to the Slayer Statute in the State of Michigan (Section 700.2803):

"In the absence of a conviction, the court, upon the petition of an interested person, shall determine whether, under the preponderance of evidence standard, the individual would be found criminally accountable for the felonious and intentional killing of the decedent. If the court determines that, under that standard, the individual would be found criminally accountable for the felonious and intentional killing of the decedent, the determination conclusively establishes that individual as the decedent's killer for purposes of this section."

http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-700-2803

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35 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Tue 31 Jul 2012, 12:48 pm

Freckles, you ROCK!!! Thank you for posting all these links! cheers


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36 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Wed 01 Aug 2012, 10:16 pm

Lol! Please remind posters to share their links right here so we can find the info at a later date.I used the set-up Ann-TX showed me:

Title of Article, bolded
Date of article if provided
"A few lines or a paragraph from article, in quotes. "
The web link from the story.

By providing info this way, it is easier to separate fact from speculation and to correct r3ecalls from memories.


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37 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Thu 02 Aug 2012, 9:10 pm

Post 287 by Admin:



"Kriger said he hasn’t had the opportunity to review the evidence, adding he’ll have to sit down with Bashara before any decisions on trial strategy are made. He said he tries to limit what he says outside the courtroom."

http://www.examiner.com/article/bashara-case-griem-out-kriger-in


Wonder if attorney and client will clash once Bob asserts his right to take the stand as Griem reported. He already lost one attorney, I can't imagine any attorney wants that buffoon on the stand.

“It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."


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38 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Fri 03 Aug 2012, 1:05 am

Families Clash over Jane's Ashes
and
Jane Bashara's husband in jail for solicitation of murder charge
Story and vid
July 31, 2012

"He doesn't want Jane's ashes. And we can't have them. That's spite. That's evil."


" Bashara will return to court Aug. 7. Gentz is scheduled to appear in court Aug. 13. "

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/investigations/Families-clash-over-Jane-Bashara-s-ashes-her-mother-says/-/1719314/15884300/-/format/rsss_2.0/-/fyhu49/-/index.html%5B/quote%5D


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39 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 13 Aug 2012, 10:51 am

From Chewet, post 404:
Clipped and BBM:

" clipped from the Freep:

The preliminary examination of Joe Gentz, the handyman who told police he killed Jane Bashara at the direction of her husband, should be adjourned Monday -- possibly for a month or more, said Gentz's lawyer Susan Reed who filed a request for the delay.

Reed said there is too much material and possible evidence to review for the hearing to take place as scheduled for Monday afternoon.

...

http://www.freep.com/article/20120812/NEWS02/120812021/Gentz-s-lawyer-expects-request-delay-granted-Monday"


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40 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 13 Aug 2012, 10:53 am

From Chewet, post 417:
"It's October, peeps. Yowza....

snipped:

The preliminary examination of handyman Joe Gentz, charged with murdering Jane Bashara, set for this afternoon was adjourned this morning by Detroit 36th District Chief Judge Kenneth King until the first week in October.


http://www.freep.com/article/20120813/NEWS02/120813003/Joseph-Gentz-s-preliminary-trial-adjourned-until-October?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

They're still working on this article, however, because in the next paragraph it still states the date had yet to be determined."


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41 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 13 Aug 2012, 10:55 am

From post 383, clipped:
" mooselift wrote:Next court date for Blob has been pushed to August 23rd....

Free Press article: http://www.freep.com/article/20120808/NEWS02/120808048/bob-bashara-joseph-gentz-murder-trial"


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42 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 13 Aug 2012, 10:57 am

clipped from post 390:

" Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:12 pm
AnalyzeThis

Bob's temporary new home is on lockdown - gun reportedly found on premises.

Wayne County Jail on lockdown
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/Wayne-County-Jail-on-lockdown/-/1719418/16053742/-/urruml/-/index.html"


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43 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 13 Aug 2012, 10:58 am

Clipped from Chewet, post 392:

" DIVISION ONE " The Andrew C. Baird Detention Facility"
Malcolm D. Thompson (mthompso@co.wayne.mi.us) - Commander – Jail Divisions I & II
PHONE:313-224-0795
ADDRESS: 570 Clinton Street
Detroit, MI 48226

Nearby landmarks include the Detroit Police headquarters building at 1300 Beaubien and The Frank Murphy Hall of Justice [Recorder's Court].

DIVISION TWO "The Old Wayne County Jail"
Malcolm D. Thompson (mthompso@co.wayne.mi.us) - Commander – Jail Divisions I & II
PHONE:313-224-1436
ADDRESS: 525 Clinton Street
Detroit, MI 48226

Nearby landmarks include the Detroit Police headquarters building at 1300 Beaubien and Gratiot Avenue.


DIVISION THREE "The William Dickerson Detention Facility"
Maggie Cesnick (mcesnick@co.wayne.mi.us) - Commander – Jail Division III
PHONE: 313-875-7000
ADDRESS: 3501 Hamtramck Drive
Hamtramck, Michigan 48212


Now, as far as we know/have been told thus far, Gentz is still being held in Division Three/Dickerson/Hamtramck, correct?

He's scheduled for arraignment at the District Court level on Monday, August 13.

Nevertheless, we now see how easily a GUN can get into the jail...despite Monster and his (former) attorney claiming otherwise...
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44 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 13 Aug 2012, 11:00 am

Clipped from Chewet, post 395

http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2010/02/04/news/cops_and_courts/doc4b6a9ec62c3d3838370673.txt?viewmode=fullstory


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45 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Mon 13 Aug 2012, 11:01 am

Post by J4J, post 398:
New atty for BB

"This article appeared in The Detroit Free Press this morning describing bob's new lawyer, Mark Kriger."

http://www.freep.com/article/20120812/NEWS01/308120191/Bob-Bashara-s-new-no-flash-lawyer-shines-with-know-how-colleagues-say?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s


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46 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Sun 09 Sep 2012, 10:09 pm

From Post 502:
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120823/METRO01/208230411/1361/Robert-Bashara-s-case-back-in-court-today

clipped--

August 23, 2012 at 12:47 pm
" Detroit — Robert Bashara's trial date on solicitation of murder charges has been set for November.

Prosecutors said Thursday they expect there will be 10 to 12 witnesses called in the case, which will likely take less than a week when it begins Nov. 12.

Robert Bashara and his attorney were in court Thursday to set dates for motions and a trial on solicitation of murder charges. The Grosse Pointe Park man is accused of attempting to hire a hit man to kill the handyman who has claimed he was paid by Bashara to kill Bashara's wife, Jane Bashara."

This is NOT for Jane's death.
It is for his attempt to hire hitmen to kill Joe G while Joe is in custody.


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47 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Sun 09 Sep 2012, 10:11 pm

Form post 528:

http://www.co.wayne.mi.us/prosecutor/index.htm

" If you click on the "Current Case Updates" icon below Kym Worthy's picture, it brings up a pdf file of all current criminal cases. Forty-five pages' worth!!

Holy crap, this is one busy office folks!!

Takes competence, integrity plus major chutzpah to stay on top of all this, and they are doing just that & more, imo!! Go Team Worthy, GO!!"


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48 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Sun 09 Sep 2012, 10:13 pm

From post 510:
Notes on Kim Worthy

A little OT on BB, but right on topic for an unrelenting Kim Worthy. This is a great article about her tenacity finding serial rapists in Detroit. I know she has the same tenacity in getting wife killers convicted as well.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/08/28/rapists-beware-detroit-prosecutor-ids-21-attackers-in-rape-kit-probe.html


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49 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Sun 09 Sep 2012, 10:16 pm

Post 463:


http://www.candgnews.com/news/schedule-bashara-trial-be-set-next-week

Schedule for Bashara trial to be set next week per article 8/16 Grosse Pointe Times. "...a calendar conference...had been rescheduled for 8:30 a.m. Aug. 23. The calendar conference is a proceeding in which the attorneys set court dates...." "Robert Moran, an attorney with the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office, told the judge he intended to provide discovery materials later in the day." So it appears that Kriger was to have received discovery materials on 8/7 following the arraignment, and that following the calendar conference, there will be a timeline for the case to proceed. (Scroll waaaaay down the linked page for the article and a photo of BB in all his weak-chinned, bulbous nosed glory...a far cry from the photos of the smiling Mayor of Middlesex most always with a cocktail in his hand. Say "buh-bye" to happy hour, BB.)


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50 Re: ARCHIVE THREAD on Wed 12 Sep 2012, 8:13 pm

Post 540:
Reduction of Bond-- Hearing:
http://www.freep.com/article/20120911/NEWS01/120911065/bob-bashara-will-challenge-bond?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CMichigan%20news%7Cs


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